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MS-9200

MS-9200UD and MS-9200UDLS

MS-25

 

 

MS-25

 

Does the MS-25 do a Silent Walktest?

No, the MS-25 is capable of an Audible Walktest only, by pressing and holding the Walktest button for approximately 5 seconds (until piezo stops). Input devices tested will "trip" their mapped outputs for 3 seconds.

 

How can I tell what device is in Alarm?

When the panel is in an Alarm condition, the corresponding Zone LED will flash, and if you press the ALARM ID key the point address of the device in Alarm will be displayed in the 7 segment LED display, the NEXT and PREV keys will scroll through all active points.

 

How do I Auto-program/JumpStart the panel?
Press the #4 “JumpStart” button, and at the prompt “Pin” enter 123456, the display will alternate “SLC – Prg 9” when complete the display will turn off.

 

The display on my panel is showing “ILL id”what does this mean?
Addressable output devices (control /relay modules) have a “fixed “range of addresses (111-158), this message will display if addressed incorrectly.

 

Does the MS-25 have a “General Alarm” zone?
The MS-25 does not have a “00” General Alarm zones, all of the points are pre-assigned to 5 software zones.

 

How should I address my devices?
Since the addresses are assigned to 5 fixed software zones (1-20 zone 1, 21-40 zone 2 etc.). Some thought should be given to addressing and not necessarily number them consecutively, especially when zone mapping is being done.

 

How can I do Zone mapping?
The panel has 5 software zones with fixed addresses assigned to them  for example Zone 1 Input devices addresses 1-20, (15 alarm and 5 supervisory),Output Device Relays addresses111-112. Any input device with an address 1-20 will trip a relay addressed 111 or 112.

 

Can any programming be done from the panel keyboard?
The only programming done from the panel is the JumpStart (Autoprogram).

 

Are Firelite devices compatible with the MS-25 panel?
No, with the exception of the BG-12LX pull station, the MS-25 panel uses HFS series detectors and modules.

 

Can I incorporate existing conventional 2 wires smokes on an MS-25 system?
No, at this point there is no module equivalent to the MMF-302 in the HFS series.

 

My panel is displaying AC1/AC2 but my AC is good, what does this mean?
This code is Account 1 or 2 and is a COMM Fault 1 or 2 actually referring to the Central Station Accounts.

 

Does the MS-25 have Aux. Power?
The MS-25 has 2 NAC circuits each can be configured as a NAC, Constant, Resettable, or Door Holder, each supplying 1.0 amp of power.

 

What kind of wire is recommended for the SLC?   
Wire can be untwisted, unshielded, solid, or stranded 22 gauge (1200 ft) to 12 gauge (10,000 ft). class B, style 4 only.

 

Connecting to the MS-25

Connect the laptop with a straight through Ethernet cable (Cat 5) to the Fire Panel.
Once the laptop is booted the display on the MS-25 will flash an IP address (ex.169.254.002.23). The laptop must be set to the same IP address as the panel.
Go to START/SETTINGS/NETWORK CONNECTIONS double click Local Area Connection.
From the Local Area Connection Status window click Properties.
From the Local Area Connection Properties window check Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) and click Properties.


 

Click Use the following IP address and enter the first 3 octets of the address displayed on the panel (169.254.002) for the fourth octet use any number close to the one displayed.
Click OK and close back to your desktop.


Open your browser and type in http://169.254.002.20 and press ENTER.

 


MS-9200

 

MS-9200: Indentifying the Newer Design

The initial MS-9200 had a pin connector for the optional modules in the upper right-hand portion of the board. The newer design has a four-position terminal block (TB7).

 

 

 

MS-9200: SLC Distances and Wiring

The SLC on the MS-9200 must run twisted-shielded pair as follows:

 

Twisted Shielded Wire

Maximum Distance

Manufacturer Part Number

12 AWG

10,000 feet (3048) meters) 

Genesis 4410; Signal 98230, Belden 9583, WPW D999.

14 AWG

8,000 feet (2438 meters) 

Genesis 4408 & 4608; Signal 98430, Belden 9581, WPW D995.

16 AWG

4875 feet (1486 meters) 

Genesis 4406 & 4606; Signal 98360, Belden 9575, WPW D991.

18 AWG

3,225 feet (983 meters)

Genesis 4402 & 4602; Signal 98300, Belden 9574, WPW D975.

 

* For retrofit applications using existing open wire (untwisted, unshielded), maximum distance @ 12-18 AWG is 1,000 ft (900 meters).

 

Note: Initiating Device Circuits (zones) and Notification Appliance Circuits (bells) monitored/controlled by addressable modules can add thousands of feet of protected space to a system.

 

MS-9200 Duct Detectors as a Supervisory device

D350P/D350RP Addressable Photoelectric Duct Detectors work with the MS-9200, which recognizes the detector as a normal detector. You will have to give the device the custom point label of "DUCT DETECTOR" to have this displayed for any device activity. Also the MS-9200 does not have the ability to register an alarm signal from a duct detector as a supervisory condition (DUCT SUPERVISORY).

 

How to Disable the MS-9200 Battery Charger

MS-9200 boards manufactured after August 2001 have a jumper (JP1), "Battery Charger Disable" located in the lower left portion of the board. Older MS-9200 boards (before 2001) do not have this ability.

 

Supervising a Conventional Detector

You cannot program the MS-9200 to supervise an addressable smoke detector. You can, however, use a monitor module (M301/M300) to monitor a conventional four-wire smoke detector or a M302 module to monitor a conventional two-wire smoke detector. You can then program the module with a Supervisory Type Code label.

 

Note: This should only be done with the approval of the Local Authority Having Jurisdiction (LAHJ).

 

MS-9200 Default NAC Code (March Time)

Early revisions of the MS-9200 manual state default NAC code is (N) for none. But actually the default NAC code is (M) for "March Time", 120 pulses per minute. Unless you program C=N in System Edit programming, you will NOT have a steady 24 VDC output as defined in the manual-—you will have a "March Time" coded output.

 

Autoprogram Problem: Display reads "Program Smoke Det 01" with no "I" or "P" to the left of it.

After performing an Autoprogram, if the display reads "Program Smoke Det 01" with no "I" or "P" to the left of the 01, there is a problem with the SLC (data) loop. If this occurs, stop programming and check the SLC loop. The most likely problem is a reversed positive and negative connection of a device.

"Program Corrupt" Message on LCD Display

 

"Program Corrupt" displays on the MS-9200 screen if programming mode is not exited properly. To exit programming mode, press the left arrow key until the display shows "System All Normal". If the panel was in trouble before entering programming mode, the trouble message displays—not the "Systems All Normal" message. To clear the "Program Corrupt" trouble, you need to Autoprogram the panel.

Note: Do not clear the program or all of your point information will be lost!

After the display shows how many devices are installed, use the left arrow key to exit programming.

 

"DACT Trouble" Message

The "DACT Trouble" message displays when the MS-9200 is programmed for operation with a UDACT-F Digital Communicator and a trouble exists on the EIA-485 data bus. Check the UDACT-F display for any trouble, such as "NO 1, NO 2" or "PH 1, PH 2". If it displays any trouble, correct the problem. In addition to the UDACT-F, this problem can be caused by a data communication problem anywhere along the EIA-485 annunciator circuit. This includes AFM and ACS-Series remote annunciators, LDM-32F lamp driver modules, and ACM-8RF relay modules. The data is supervised by the last or only device on the bus, which must be set for Transmit and Receive operation. All other EIA-485 devices connected on the data bus would have to be set for Receive Only operation. The trouble could be caused by wiring or programming, and may be related to any device connected on the data bus. Check any other devices connected on the EIA-485 bus for trouble. When the EIA-485 data bus trouble clears, then the "DACT Trouble" message will clear.

 

Refer to the MS-9200 and EIA-485 device manuals for programming and wiring information. MS-9200 Addressable Fire Alarm Control Panel Manual

 

Alarm Silence Switch Does Not Silence the MS-9200

Depending on the software installed in the MS-9200, the onboard NACs could be programmed as silenceable or non-silenceable. If a module with a type code label of "waterflow" is in alarm, all outputs are non-silenceable regardless of programming. Any control module with a type code label of "strobe" will be non-silenceable.

 

Panels with software P/N 73750 or greater allow programming NAC 1 and NAC 2 in Point Edit programming.

  1. Press the * key, then the # key, press '1' for NAC 1 and '2' for NAC 2.
  2. Select either 'BELL_CKT' for silenceable operation or 'STROBE' for non-silenceable operation. Coding is only possible if the NAC is programmed as 'BELL_CKT'.
    With software versions prior to 73750, NAC 1 was silenceable and NAC 2 was non-silenceable.

For details, refer to the MS-9200 Addressable Fire Alarm Control Panel Manual.

 

PK-9200W

 

Do I need to order the PIM-24 Printer/PC Interface Module separately to use the PK-9200W?

The old PK-9200 was a DOS-based package that included the PIM-24, cable, and DB connector. The current PK-9200W (a Windows-based package) does not include the PIM- 24, cable, or DB connector. If you are upgrading to the PK-9200W from PK-9200, you should already have the PIM-24, cable, and DB connector. For those ordering PK-9200W, and never had PK-9200, the PIM-24 would have to be ordered separately. The PIM-24 includes the Printer/PC interface module, cable, and DB connector.

 

MS-9200 Optional Modules: Printer Interface Module (PIM) or DIM

The new design of the MS-9200 main board (available August 2001) includes PIM and DIM circuitry. MS-9200 boards manufactured before August 2001 require these optional modules.

 

Powering Up the MS-9200 on batteries

Earlier versions of this MS-9200 (shipped before August 2001) could be powered up with batteries only. The current design MS-9200 units (August 2001) requires applying AC power before powering up.

 

MS-9200 and Printers

The MS-9200 works with serial printers. For permanent attachment, use the PRN-6F printer which is UL-listed for fire applications.

 

Printer Supervision

The MS-9200 cannot supervise a printer.

 

Maintenance Alert

All MS-9200 software versions—except obsolete version 73492-—include Maintenance Alert.

 

Note: Replace software version 73492 with the current version. Refer to the MS-9200 Addressable Fire Alarm Control Panel Manual.

 

 

Walk Test

The MS-9200 allows for a silent walk test or a Pulse Sounders walk test. During Silent walk test, all sounding devices, control modules, and NAC 1 and NAC 2 outputs remain off. During Pulse Sounders walk test, all silenceable control modules, and NAC 1, and NAC 2 (if programmed as "BELL CKT" in point edit programming) will activate.

 

NOTE: Relay modules (e.g., CRF-300, C-304) configured as a RELAY) are non-silenceable therefore do not activate during either walk test mode.

 

How to Delete a MS-9200 Point

MS-9200 programming does not provide functionality to delete a specific point but you can delete points through autoprogramming. Note: Take care when deleting points. Once a point is deleted all information for the point is gone.

 

Note: To delete specific devices, use PK-9200W local upload/download software.

 

To delete a point from the MS-9200 program:

  1. Remove the point from the SLC loop, or set the address to 00, the panel will display "TRBL 1" (Invalid Reply).
  2. Autoprogram the panel and you are prompted to delete the point "No answer Delete?
  3. To delete the point, press the Enter key; to skip, press the left arrow key.

 

If the point location is unknown or it cannot be reached (such as high ceiling requiring a lift):

  1. Remove the SLC loop from the panel; all points will go into "TRBL 1".
  2. Perform an autoprogram, press Enter ONLY for the points you want to delete. To skip a point, press the left arrow key.

 

Refer to the MS-9200 Addressable Fire Alarm Control Panel Manual.

 


MS-9200UD and MS-9200UDLS

 

How do I order a replacement transformer for the MS-9200UD(LS)?
Depending on the version of your panel will determine the part number of the transformer.
If you have the MS-9200UDLS rev 1 firmware 3.x (no USB connector) you would need the XRM-24.
If you have the MS-9200UDLS rev 2 or 3 firmware 4.x, or 5.x (USB connector) you would need the XRM-24B.

 

Trouble in System Remote Sync Fault

The "Trouble In System Remote Sync Fault" message means that the Remote Power Supply Sync output TB2 requires a 4.7K ohm resistor for proper supervision.

 

Can a Printer and a LCD-80F be connected at the same time?

No—the MS-9200UD/MS-9200UDLS can only support one LCD-80F at a time.

 

Conductors required when installing the LCD-80F

The MS-9200UD/UDLS requires six conductors for the LCD-80F: two for power and four for data.

 

Are AD-355 detectors compatible for LiteSpeed™?

AD-355 detectors only work in CLIP (Classic Loop Interface Protocol) mode.

 

Replacing a MS-9200 with a MS-9200UD/UDLS using all the same devices

All devices from the MS-9200 work on the MS-9200UD/UDLS—except the LCD-40 annunciator.

 

Note: The default SLC mode is LiteSpeed. If using older devices, you may need to change the Loop Protocol to CLIP Mode to maintain proper function with older devices.

 

The circuit breaker on my MS-9200UDLS does not stay in.

 

The black “push button” is not a “resettable” circuit breaker, but a “momentary “ switch for temporarily disconnecting your AC power.